Climate Change and Energy Minister Chris Bowen speaks to 7.30

SARAH FERGUSON: The question asked by Peter Dutton in Question Time today and not answered by the Prime Minister was what is the total cost of the Government's energy plan? Is there a straight answer to that question?

Because it is an auction, we don't reveal to the bidders what our reserve prices are and we don't reveal our financials because it is an auction and I want to get the best arrangements for the taxpayer. It could well be that it doesn't cost the taxpayer a dollar because the bidders have to share profits with us as well.

Now Mr Dutton is saying he wants nuclear power to be a key change for Australia's energy system going forward. He can't tell you how much it is going to cost, he can't tell you how many gigawatts you would generate. What detail he has put out there is wrong. He said a small modular reactor would generate waste equivalent to a can of Coke. That is just wrong, it is a lie and if Mr Dutton doesn't understand his policy, how could he be trusted to implement it?

And let me just pick you up on the international point. Mr Dutton says this repeatedly and it's just plain wrong. The world adds more renewable capacity every couple of weeks than nuclear capacity around the world all year. CHRIS BOWEN: And to make their nuclear policy work, Sarah, they need and some of them admit this, some of the Nationals in Queensland admit this, they need to slow down the rollout of renewables to make their nuclear policy even vaguely work.

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